Well the election is over and there are now 650 MPs, though the current bunch are talking about reducing that number, either way “646 All Out” is no longer really accurate. So I’ve no idea if this site made any difference (probably not) but I’ll be back next time round anyway for however many of them there are by then.

Though of course with the currently proposed “electoral reforms” we may have just missed our last change to ever radically change the shape of of Parliament via the ballot box. Few forms of PR (and so far they’re not even talking about real PR) work in favour of new parties, independents or changing the make up of the government in a radical fashion. So all we may have to look forward to is a permanent game of musical chairs between the current incumbents.

Oh well, tell then we’re still ruled by people who call breaking the law a “breach of the rules” and then let themselves off and I can’t see that changing anytime soon.

Giolla

So out of 646 seats about 15% changed hands, leaving us with no idea who’ll govern us and the possibility that there’ll be another election before too long. In the meantime the main political parties, especially the LibDems, are running round telling us that a hung parliament is a terrible thing and the only solution is electoral reform to replace our current system with something that will ensure all future governments require the same sort of deals that are such a terrible thing in the event of a hung parliament but would be fine under the new scheme. Meanwhile we’re being governed by the same lot as before the election including several “ministers” who are no longer elected MPs but are carrying on governing us anyway.

As James Cleverly observes “PR isn’t better it’s just different”, and he’s not wrong. So far most of the forms of PR that have been touted and for which people are demonstrating ensure that whilst the “national” share of votes is reflected in the number of seats they at the same time make it impossible for independent candidates to ever get in, so no more Martin Bells or “save Kiddiminster hospital” candidates. Very small parties will also be no more as they won’t be able to campaign just a single seat and get a toe hold that way, but will need to be able to campaign in numerous places with the hope of getting enough votes over all to maybe scrape a seat. In the meantime slightly larger parties that can do that, such as the BNP or Greens, will at least have a voice and potentially quite a powerful one depending on how those national percentages work out. So depending on how you look at it a mixed bag, either quite poor or very poor. Meanwhile of course we may have some sort of permanent coalition of a couple of large parties ruling over us for ever, terribly democratic that.

The bigger issue to my mind is almost every form of PR breaks the link between the electorate and their representative, you would no longer have an MP representing your area directly and you’ll have no way to get rid of a corrupt MP. the reason being that most forms of PR work on party lists so the party chooses who’ll represent you and their place in the house isn’t dependent on representing you, as you just vote for a party, but in working for their party so as to stay high up on the list of people to fill the party seats. Of course the parties will notionally have to keep to their promises and such so as to keep their share of the vote, or you know they could just tell us how bad the others are and try to scare us into voting against the other guy. In either case the people at the top of the party lists are utterly safe, and the people at the bottom of the lists will be more worried about moving up the list than trying to represent us, as there’s no link between how we vote and if a particular MP gets in or not.

So if you think political parties are the best thing since sliced bread, and really don’t care about having independent candidates or small parties being able to make changes PR is the way to go. If on the other hand you’d rather have some say in who your representative is as an individual you might perhaps want to think about the matter a bit more carefully. There are many forms of “PR” some of which preserve the link, but will we be given that choice and all forms of PR make the larger incumbent parties safer over all and thus more disconnected from the electorate.

As a concrete example consider this the BBC report that nationally “others” (so all the independents and tiny parties) got 1.1% of the vote and one actual seat – in a PR systems that award seats according to percentage of vote those “others” should have 7 seats, but how would we pick which 7 small party/independent candidates got those seats? Lottery? Highest vote in their area or would it be a case that each independents percentage of the vote is counted and so we never have independent candidates again – only candidates beholden to the party machines.

I should also point you towards Charles Crawfords article on the a href=”http://charlescrawford.biz/blog/the-psychology-of-coalitions”>”The Psychology Of Coalitions” where he discusses the likely effects of the horse trading coalitions demands on a political class already obsessed with getting back into power the next time before they even make a decision as to how to run the country this time.

In the interest of fairness it does seem that the STV (Single transferable vote) does address many of my concerns, but that still leaves the problem on some constituencies having more power than others on a per capita basis and as observed by Burning our money none of the options being discussed so far address the fact that unlike the other members of the United Kingdom England alone doesn’t have any devolved representation.

Hopefully you’ve already voted or are going to, if not why not? We only get a chance to have an effective say twice a decade it’d be a shame to waste it.

Mind I am slightly more optimistic in out look than the people over at the Daily Mash:

BRITAIN TO MAKE HORRIFYINGLY ILL-INFORMED CHOICE

BRITAIN will today once again cast its vote guided by a series of worthless opinions with no basis in fact.

As the polling stations open, stunningly ill-informed voters across the country are preparing to support a party manifesto that bears little or no relation to the fantasy world that exists inside their brains.

Tomorrow we collectively get to choose who we want to subcontract out the management of the UK to, and there are many many people that would quite like one of the 646 management posts on offer. The media would have us believe that there are only three firms fit for the job and that getting a group of independent contractors or smaller firms in would lead to disaster.

They would have us believe that despite the heads of all three firms having been caught with their fingers in the till, and many of their staff following the same example that these are the only people who could possibly do the job. Who knows they may be right, but look at it another way, we know that the three main bidders are corrupt and not doing a very good job, at least if we get in a new team they might not be.

If you took your care to a garage to be fixed and discovered they were over charging you, and that the staff were stealing anything left in your car when it went in, would you take your car back there? Or would you maybe try a different garage which hasn’t ripped you off already? Yes they might do a worse job, they might even rip you off in the same way but there’s only one way you’ll find out and there is the possibility that they’ll be much better, charge less and not steal from you. Would you honestly continue to use a shop or garage that you know is ripping you off, just because well you always go there? Or would you perhaps try somewhere else? And if you’d accept such behaviour in the comparatively small matters of a garage, why accept it from the people asking us to let them run the country?

As Anna Raccoon says the current management of UK PLC are not fit for purpose. The time has surely come that we need to chuck them all out, even if a new “inexpereinced” team makes some mistakes at least we’re not telling the same bunch of crooks and incompetents that we’re happy with their behaviour.

I’m sure you won’t have forgotten about the expenses scandal, and I hope that when you go to vote you’ll remember the politicians which abused the system and all the others that did nothing to even raise the problem of the wide spread abuse of the expenses. But just in case you’d like a reminder here’s a little video:

(Thanks to Old Holborn)

Via Anna Raccoon a nice little summary of Gordon Browns lies and U-turns – a damning track record for him and the parties that failed to hold him to account.


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According to an article over at ekklesia.co.uk he certainly wouldn’t have voted for any of the three established parties.

The Times newspaper has been running short pieces by Christian backers of the three big parties in Britain, getting them to say why Jesus might support their favoured political horse. Frankly, the politics of Jesus (to adapt the title of Mennonite theologian John Howard Yoder’s justly famous book) doesn’t work like that. The collusion of overbearing religion and politics killed him as a subversive, but even the grave the empire built could not contain him. Nonetheless, Jonathan Bartley decided to play ball in a good-humoured way, having got the paper at least to allow him to ask, “Would Jesus have voted ‘other’?” Here’s what he came up with…

The idea that Jesus would opt for the agenda of one of the main three parties is at best questionable. At this General Election there has been the usual push from religious leaders, churches and faith groups urging that people come out and put their cross on the ballot paper as a matter of duty. But the Cross of Christ is something which brings a different perspective to bear.

Would Jesus vote for a smaller party or independent? Would Jesus spoil his ballot paper? Would he have voted at all in a system which is so manifestly unjust and unrepresentative? Here are 10 suggestions to encourage debate about whether Jesus might in fact opt for something other than a vote for the three big three.

Having complained previously that so many of the “who to vote for quizzes” don’t include the minor parties but basically maintain the myth of a choice between the big three and maybe one other if we’re lucky. Well “They work for you” have come to the rescue with an “Election Quiz” based on the responses from every candidate they could get an answer from. It’s quite interesting who hasn’t responded to them, so if you’re still looking for an alternative go take the quiz and see what your candidates are actually saying.

Especially as if it’s anything like round here, no one will have been round to your door to talk to you.

With just three days left to go, Old Holborn brought two things to my attention, that are worth remembering next time someone tries to persuade you that not voting for the big three is a wasted vote.

Firstly consider these statistics from the independent:

“TWO PARTY DOMINANCE

Votes Cast for parties other than Labour or Conservative

1951 3.2%

2005 32.7%”

So whilst it make take time, how much of that delay is because we keep believing that we can’t change the way things are and that we have to vote for the same parties every time, and with that in mind please take the time to watch the following:

Thanks to Captain Ranty for this, a theft report of some of the rights and liberties that our three glorious parties have given away and destroyed whilst collectively holding the reins of power.

Theft Report-A Reminder For May 6th

10 days to go.

10 days left to ensure that this theft can be reversed and we can have all stolen items returned to us.

10 days left to change your minds and avoid voting for LibLabCon.

This is my first ever repeat post but I hope you agree that it is worth repeating as a reminder to all those who will simply vote for more of the same. Or worse. Vote for the Big Three and you condone this theft.

Let’s get our country back under British control.

Here you go:

pre-crime, because the theft will not take place until 00:01 hours, Tuesday 1st December 2009.

It is a notable theft and bears reporting. Many others have tried, and failed, to obtain police action. Politicians have been asked, and in turn, they have ignored our questions, and our documented demands that they cease and desist. Not surprising, when you learn that it is the politicians themselves that will aid and abet in the theft.

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